Bungi Bill

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  Cut and Paste of "The List" by Prominent Bethelite of Previous Watchtower Predicted Dates

  by TMS in

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  " {watchtower sep 1 1989 12}.

  " {tiah 240-1, also references in wr oct 1879 3941, tkic 84}.

  '" {zions watchtower mar 1880 repr 82}.

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  Bungi Bill

  Thanks for posting the above.

  I had heard it said that the JWs made certain claims about the year 1932, but this is the first documentary evidence I have ever seen about their claims regarding that date.

  Bill.
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Bungi Bill

  OK - today I am in a rather pedantic mood, so here goes!

  Firstly, "Voltage" is a rather loose term that covers two closely rated phenomena:

  1) Electromotive Force (EMF) - which forms the "E" component of Ohm's Law (i.e. E = IR). This is the difference in potential energy between the two terminals of a complete electric circuit, and which produces the flow of electrons through it once the circuit is "closed".

  2) Potential Difference - which reflects the loss of potential energy across the various individual resistances within that same electrical circuit. This quantity is commonly referred to as "Volt Drop" and includes the energy loss in the circuit's conductors (which over a long run of cable, can be quite significant). Once often abbreviated to "PD", this is probably not a good idea anymore, as it could easily get confused with "Partial Discharge".

  The unit of measurement of both EMF and Potential Difference is the volt, and the sum of all differences in potential around an electrical circuit will always equal the EMF that has been applied across its terminals (whether from a battery, generator, transformer or whatever).

  Now we come to this quantity that some refer to as "amperage". Fellas, there is no bloody such thing as "amperage"! The quantity is known as "current", refers directly to the flow of electrons through an electrical circuit, and its unit of measurement is the ampere (usually abbreviated to "amp"). In other words, the amp is purely a unit of measurement - nothing else.

  In a hydraulic system, the total head of water would be the equivalent of the Electromotive Force (EMF) in an electrical circuit, flow of water (gallons per hour etc) would be the equivalent of an electrical current, and loss of head would be the equivalant of Potential Difference.

  As I said, I am feeling a little pedantic today!
  

  Bill.
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  why did man go from living 900 years to 90?

  by sowhatnow in

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  2. bible

  i cant recall the scripture, where it says than only a few men will he live to be 80 years or so, can anyone recall that?.

  so then im wondering, if it is a fact that men lived long years 900 in some cases, for what reason would god limit our lifespan if our time is so short compared to his?.

  how on earth does man go from living 8 and 9 hundred years down to 80 to 100 ?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Ah, yes...... that non-existent water canopy that was supposed to have been held in place in the "Thermosphere" layer of the earth's atmosphere. This was supposed to have blanketed out much of the harmful radiation from reaching the Biosphere layers. Great stuff, a water jacket - filter out anything! (apparently)

  Bill.
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Bungi Bill

  Bungibill, you must be an Aussie if 240v is the measurement??

  Yes, I am.

  - 240V and 50Hz

  Bill
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Bungi Bill

  Then again, if a certain holy book says nothing about this phenomenon, then it cannot possibly exist.

  You are right - and I retract all my previous statements!

  (Might still wear insulating gloves though, just in case)

  Bill.
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Bungi Bill

  "You can't see electricity or hear it or feel it."

  Let me correct you about that one, at least.

  You can feel electricity, - as most electricians can attest to (very few of us have not inadvertently touched something that was live at 240 volts to earth, and you can feel that, all right. Talk about livening up your day!)

  That is why such devices as cattle prods and electric fences work like they do; the animal on the receiving end can feel the passage of electricity through its body - and feel it very well!

  Bill.
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  ANZAC DAY

  by zeb in

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  2. current

  at early dawn on the 25th april 1915, french, british and dominion troops were delivered by small boats to storm the shores of the turkish peninsular with the objective of invading turkey and forcing that country out of the war and causing the end of the great war by many months.. the operation was a complete disaster.

  the troops were landed not on the expected flat beaches but up against cliffs.

  the turks were prior informed and the invading soldiers were shot to hell.

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  Bungi Bill

  There is a change of plans for me, now being in Brisbane on business - so will be attending tomorrow morning's dawn parade in Anzac Square, instead of the one at the local RSL branch in Longford (TAS). I would wear my father in law's medals (WWII and the Burma Railway), only the ribbons are in such a state of disrepair that I fear the medals would be lost before a person walked three metres!

  Bill.
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  Bungi Bill

  So study in Dispensationalism, Eschatology, Hermeneutics, brimstone fire, and hellfire so forth and so on to understand the IBSA and just maybe you’ll understand the concept of the 70 jubilee cycle, and then work your way to 1975

  What's the point? Whichever means they used to arrive at the date 1975, they were wrong! Start and finish of the matter.

  In case you haven't noticed, 1975 was 40 years ago, and "The End" still hasn't arrived (not that I can see anyway!)

  Bill.
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  Bungi Bill

  Some witnesses took this to mean Armageddon

  Not just "some", as later WTS attempts to whitewash the whole fiasco would have us believe (but which will never work on those of us who were there and experienced the whole debacle). Furthermore, the writers WTS literature carefully worded all references to 1975 make it clear that this was the conclusion they wanted their readers to reach:

  - i.e. that it was a "probability" rather than a "possibility".

  Even the 1980 WTS literature that you cite admits that the Watchtower writers fell for their own propaganda! And it was pity help any of the R&F in the congregations who in any way doubted that 1975 would see Armageddon - such JW swear words as "immature" or "worldly" would then feature prominently!

  Some witnesses took this to mean Armageddon? More like some witnesses may have still had their doubts - but only some (and they were well advised to keep their mouths shut about it, too!)
  

  Bill.

  PS: Good luck in your attempts to rewrite history - you are going to need it!
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  Bungi Bill

  Research the Watchtower March 15, 1980 pages 17-18 U.S. version

  Yearbook 1980 pages 30-31 U.S. version. As well as what was written in the Watchtower in 1976.

  Whatever for? That was trying to be wise after the event. A bloody lot of use it is to close the stable door after the horse has bolted for it!

  That 1976 Watchtower article that chastised those who had sold up their homes and pioneered pre-1975 might have achieved some good had it said the same thing several years beforehand.

  Are we all supposed to be impressed by the fact that the WTS did finally say something - just several years too late to prevent people from harming themselves?

  Bill.